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PostSubject: Is Squall that anti social?   Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:35 pm

this should be fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:40 pm

Squall is what I prefer to call psychologically defensive. Squall is a deep thinker. He always thought before he made any sort of comment to be sure he was acting the right way.

If you're talking about anti-social. Are you talking about anti social with his team or with the game player? In relation to the game player, you always knew what Squall was thinking, because you had the thought boxes on the screen showing you.

If you're talking about his team, I like how Squall is a dynamic character who changes althroughout the game. He starts off very cold with remarks like "whatever" and "none of your business", but he eventually starts to let other people in.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:43 pm

in the beginning, he is pretty weird, especially at that party. he was so awkward.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:46 pm

He was annoying. Worst male lead to ever have in a game, as well as Tidus. Hell, dumb friggin' crybabies!!
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:22 pm

xXxTifa LockheartxXx wrote:
He was annoying. Worst male lead to ever have in a game, as well as Tidus. Hell, dumb friggin' crybabies!!

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

This statement just makes me laugh, I'm sorry.

First of all worst lead male to ever have been in a game? Worst and ever togethor imply the absolute worse. I don't think you can accuse Square of ever having the worst lead character of any sex to have been in their games.

At any rate, you'd have to at least justify how Cloud is better than Squall, and I don't know if you can overcome that!

Then the comparison to Tidus. This is what really made me laugh. Squall compared to Tidus? There's no comparison they are completely different characters. You can't say there is anything similar about them.

Crybaby Squall? I'm sorry, a claim like that isn't worth discussing.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:47 pm

Nah, it's just my opinion and I am entitled to my own If you want, would you like me to give you a lecture to the word O-P-I-N-I-O-N since you can't handle criticism of your precious, good-for-nothing Squall?
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:27 pm

this is entertaining.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:11 pm

xXxTifa LockheartxXx wrote:
Nah, it's just my opinion and I am entitled to my own If you want, would you like me to give you a lecture to the word O-P-I-N-I-O-N since you can't handle criticism of your precious, good-for-nothing Squall?

No you don't need to explain opinion to me because it is a useless concept.

I'd rather discuss an analytic of judgment, in this case lets start with an analytic or the sublime.

The sublime is what we find to be incomparably great. Thus I find Squall to be a sublime character who's greatness is obvious.

The feeling of the sublime is something where we are overcome with respect, admiration, and even fear all at once. When I view the grand canyon or a tsunami I have respect for the power this thing holds, admiration for desiring to be more like in in the particular desire of wanting to be so powerful, and I fear what this unbelieveable force can do to me. Imagine being on the coast of an incoming tsunami might you not feel all of these same things.

I feel much the same about Squall. I have respect for who he is. Furthermore I have admiration of wanting to have that same power, and fear for what his abilities could do to me if he so chooses. Just I as I am slave to the power of Squall Leonhart, you are as well. Only your admiration has been corrupted with criticism as you appeal more to your fear of Squall Leonhart.

However Squall Leonhart is also beautiful as defined in Kant's Critique of Judgment's fourth moment and general remark of aesthetic judgment.

"The beautiful is that which pleases in the mere judging in it apart from all interest."

So essentially we both have to agree on the position Squall Leonhart is beautiful, because firstly in my instance he pleases my judgment of taste and he suffices anyone even in you in judging his character. As pleasant as it is for me to acclaim him, it pleases you to criticize him.

Why do we want to believe this? Because when I'm talking about something that is beautiful or sublime it is that way for any being with reason. I don't merely wish to opine that Squall Leonhart is great, but I want every individual with reason to be able to conclude what I have come to conclude regarding the character of Squall Leonhart. And even those who disagree with me are forced to realize the pleasure in understanding who and what it is that makes Squall Leonhart be.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:26 pm

XDDDD

ok, that right there was pwnage.

Tif, just give up. your not going to win against Vincent.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:09 pm

Squall=dog poop.

I could give an argument, but why would I waste such precious time wasting my time on such a dumb and useless character? See, even now I am wasting time. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:00 pm

good come back lol

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:18 pm

xXxTifa LockheartxXx wrote:
Squall=dog poop.

I could give an argument, but why would I waste such precious time wasting my time on such a dumb and useless character? See, even now I am wasting time. Razz

I agree with you on this one. Moving outside of the bounds of thinking established by "word associations" or "what are you listening to" is a terrible thing for this forum!
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:24 pm

LOL

*dies after laughing on the floor after 30 min*

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:30 pm

Miss Sexy Bitch, please don't make me look like an idiot T.T

even though I am....


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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:26 pm

wow. all this love, in just one thread!

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:10 pm

OMG this is hysterical

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:51 pm

You know, that's just sad and low. I'm not the one who looks like an idiot, it's you for abusing your admin powers.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:55 pm

But he's still so hot!! ^^ sowwy. He's just really cute, Clouds kinda the same of anti social, so no complaining
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:10 am

Cloud is way more anti social than Vincent. Squall only says what he needs to say, and when Cloud talks, I wish he would stop.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:19 am

Lol, I don't remember that ^^ I need to play the game again, both :p
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:15 pm

Although his thread was most proberly here when this site was made idc posting my thoughts now. In my eyes Squall was a attempted remake of cloud. Both are anti-social, both carry swords (like all lead chars) both like to lean against walls. etc etc. But in my eyes Cloud is better because he came first out of the two, when i all saw Squall all i could see was Cloud remade and destroyed. First thing that impresses me about Cloud is the Buster sword. The sheer size of it would cripple Squall as he uses the small, yet quite effective gunblade. But seriously i dont see how can a sword mixed with a gun is impressive. Cloud not only can weild the Buster sword, but he uses it like it dont even weigh anything, and then there are his limit breaks which just rule. And there is another factor that proves Cloud is the better (and by far the best) male lead to ever grace final fantasy doorsteps is the movie Advent children with, once again, Cloud as the leading male. No game series like final fantasy have managed to pull that off and keep there fan basis. And a sequel was made to the game with Vincent as lead, regretfully it became a shooter. Vincent is a strong supporting male but i dont think he should of became a lead. Now i believe i read something about Tidus being one of the weaker leads. With that i will disagree. Tidus definatly don't measure up to clouds standards, but he definatly brought in a new aspect into the realm of ff. Yet again he uses a sword and yet again the hair is spiky, but there is one thing that most of the other leads didnt have what he does. He actually shows alot of emotion in FFX. Most of the other leads raely showed emotion apart from coolness. Tidus shows his emotion, sad, happy, angry, whatever he shows it. And unlike most other leads he isn't a trained soldier who knows how to fight, he is a rookie who fell over when handed a sword. Now give me a male lead's name who is just like that and then i will raise my hand up and say Tidus sucks. But right now Tidus remains to be the first emotional, rookie fighter ever to lead in a ff.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:29 pm

Yea i doubt the buster sword could do crap to the revolver. For one when the trigger mechanism of the revolver gets activated it cause a huge as tremor that goes through the blade that makes it harder to control and would take shear strength to, and with the buster swords state it would totally eat through that. Now the tsurugi may have a chance against the revolver cause of all the different moves it could pull off with the swords that combine to make it, but if hit right then blade would crumble and the weilder would sure to fall. Squall like cloud? plz highly doubtful. Only reason why Cloud gets his attention is cause of how much hype that pos game got. Cloud and Squall are both anti social yes, but cloud is always like. "Who amI", "Why do I live", etc etc. Squall is just a loner and doesn't really care what happens. He knows who he is and why he is on the planet. Throughout the game he does open up and finally accept others. Cloud though, it took till Advent childern's end to figure his who life out.

Though i do have to agree with you on Tidus.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:28 pm

I'm going to make the argument against Cloud here. His buster sword was indeed bigger, but bigger doesn't necessarily mean better or stronger for that matter. If that was the case guys like Auron win out. The revolver does pack a punch because of that tremmor, so the accuracy and strength needed for that show that he has more skill. Throwing Tidus in the mix, he is far and away the best athlete of the three.

The question is about anti social though. Squall was a little beyond it at the beginning of the game. I mean come on, it's a dance. I can't do the polka, but I wouldn't act like an idiot if someone asked me to dance. His social skills were very lacking. He never came off as articulate throughout the game. A social person I would define as someone who could converse with many different types of people and command attention when the situation calls for it. Never did I see him having the ability to do any of that. In social situations he cowared away plain and simple and therefore I see him as anti social.

Cloud just annoyed me flat out. He had great friends, a beautiful woman, arguably two, and he was still begging for people to feel sorry for him. All of his thoughts were selfish and emo and never did he seem to be focused on the good of his team, which I can give credit to Squall for. Tidus as well for that matter. His troubled past is not anything spectacular either, and it doesn't make me feel sorry for him. If anything how much he whined about the past makes me sorry for myself I had to play with him so much.

In my opinion, Tidus is the best male lead, but that's off topic here.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Squall that anti social?   Mon May 17, 2010 1:18 pm

l0l ! -applause for Tif and AtLoss-

truly awesome. Squall was good enough I'd say. Cloud is too much of a drama queen in my opinion.
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