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PostSubject: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:56 am

I'll tell you why most people think rap is so evil. Mostly because they have never listened to rap. and if they have, they already had a negative judgement on it and would have never given it a chance in the first place. You can't judge things without having an open mind.

That's one of the worst things we do in our society. To see someone and base them off appearence. Or to instantly think that because a black person walks into a store that they are going to steal something. because someone is asian they have to be smart. to think that because a man is hispanic that he abuses his wife and drinks beer. because someone is white they are rich and think they're better than everyone. the list goes on and on. stereotypes themselves are awful. Know what's worse? when you believe them and think them yourselves. and then even say them vocally. passing them along so they'll never end. I'm not talking about jokes, we all do it, but when you say them seriously.

For someone to say that I AM (not might be) going to be a wife beater and heavy drinker because i'm a hispanic man is so ridiculous given my person. you all know that these are two things i am so firmly against that it's impossible for a person to be more against them. It's ludicrous to say that i am this way because other hispanics are.

Now, what does this have to do with rap? I have seen many of you and SO many others bashing rap. One of my favorite people, crissy, has even said something like "all rap is for lechers and pervs and i don't see what's so good about it." This is the same statement as Jimi is a wife beater and drinker because he's hispanic. I'm certain that crissy has very little, if any knowledge of rap music at all. I'm sure she got this knowledge second hand or someone let her listen to a song that was indeed bad.

Aaryn, my lil bro, "Rap songs have random lyrics that make no sense." Also a bad stereotype. Rap songs almost all rhyme. that's because the roots are poetry that was read in small clubs during slavery and they would do this in a particular rythm and beat. So it was a way of expressing themselves through poetry and music, and the combination of the two.

Is some rap bad? sure. are there pointless songs? sure. are there bad rock songs? yes. are there pointless country songs? yes. I'll share some examples.

I have heard a rock song about worshipping the devil that i heard once. Sorry, i don't have the name.

There was a rock song i heard called "55" by Van Halen. The entire song was about not being able to stay under the speed limit. wtf?

There is a popular country song where the woman is proudly proclaiming herself a redneck woman because she fits into this stereotype and that one. wtf again?

all types of music have good songs and bad songs, and pointless songs. But for me to say that all country singers are red necks who wear boots and drink bud light would be stupid of me and dumber than the stereotype itself. For me to say that rockers are all dumb guys who's hair has to be longer than women's and they can only scream and not sing is also dumb.

You have to actually listen to it. talk to someone who actually does appreciate the music and find out why. If you want to know why someone listens to rap, don't ask someone who hates rap. Ask someone like me and i will give you some good rap music to listen to. I will show you the good side of it.

Life is about being open to new things and being a better person everyday. When people make these negative comments about rap without a proper view from both sides of the spectrum, it's a crime against intellect. I may not like rock music very much, or screamo or whatever, but you'd never hear me saying something generalizing about it without even hearing it or some suggested songs from fans. that's just childish. I have heard some great rock songs. i like a few country songs, and i have never even heard screamo music. So how can i judge it? i can't.

So please, don't judge rap music. Not all songs say bitch and ho every other sentence.

I love it because of the rich history, pleasing rythm, and meaningful lyrics that i can relate to.

I would just ask that you hear some of these songs and tell me what you honestly think. if they rap too fast, i'll get your some lyrics.

Hey Mama - Kanye West (best dance i ever had in my life was with my mohter to this song, and kanye and i relate well when it comes to our mothers and what we want for them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtpKqMpqGU0

Roses - Kanye West (a song about his sick grandmother)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTovzKyOEM8

Never Let You Down - Kanye West (a great song, just listen, and there is a poem as the third verse that leaves me speechless)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sHpHQTuZC4&feature=related

First of the Month - Bone Thugs N Harmony (this is for those who love that weed and a song that i listen to because it relates to many of the members of my family, and has a realistic view of wanting to smoke weed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_cOsgRY7w

Home - Bone Thugs N Harmony feat Phil Collins (this is such a good song that i can relate to and has a wonderful beat and a legend as far as rock is concerned with them in this song. reminds me of growing up without very much money or any of that.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLB_U0YPOg

Hope - Twista (very inspirational song about better days to come)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dgtLrOe1-Q&feature=related

Sunshine - Twista (a great song for those like me who want to make money someday)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d50_ePO7qU8&feature=related

Heart of the City - Jay Z (from american gangster, and a great song for when you live in a rough city like i did)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0zFRfRXu0




Now, this took a lot of time, please give me just a little and listen to some of these while you're posting or whatever. Just try it, it really can't hurt. If you hate them all, then i can only say that we can respectfully agree to disagree. These are but a few of the many great songs that i love to hear. Thanks for all your time.


edit: i have no clue why the links don't work, but you can copy/paste the url into the browser.

(I deleted the URL part so you can use the links.)

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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:29 pm

very very well said there jimi

and I like all those songs xD
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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:35 pm

Ah thank you good sir. *bows* that post was harder than any rp post i have ever done lol. You heard them all?

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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:59 pm

I really don't like music. I really hate it. However, i'm not going to say that all the people who rap aren't talented, because that most certainly isn't true. I've tried to listened to it, but i just can't realate to it...
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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:27 pm

That's what happens very often. If you can't relate to the music, it's hard to listen to. Tis why i picked some songs that others may be able to relate to. like the song about kanye's mom or sick grandma, or the one about home. but that would be a good reason to not listen to a certain song or type of music.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:41 pm

ok, I've read the post, and I have to say a few things.

1.pertaining to the part where I said "rap songs have random lyrics". If I remember correctly, ddint I say that about the crappy ones I had listened to

2.dont get me wrong. some rap songs I do like. its just that most of the ones I've heard (eric >.>) were so retarded I couldnt even dedscribe them. but, some rap songs have a good beat, and I like them.

3.some rap songs relate to good things, yes. that I'll agree to. I've heard a couple.

4. that was a long post >.> lol.


well, just to sum it up, I dont hate rap in general and think that every song is dirty, horrible, and has random lyrics. Some I do like, and some relate to life and the good and bad times.

there we go.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:05 pm

1. hell yeah it was long, my hands and head hurt afterwards.
2. thanks for reading it and defending your point.
3. thank god you don't go to eric for input on rap music
4. lmfao

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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:11 pm

What no Immortal Technique, Wu Tang Clan, or Louis Logic is mentioned here. I say bloody bollocks good chap, you're far deprived of the pleasures of rap.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:25 pm

you and i have been over this sir. i still need to hear some stuff. and i wanted to give them some popular artists easily identifiable.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:43 pm

Last thing before i sleep. I wasn't meaning i don't understand what they rap about, it just almost seems...

repetitive...

I do feel sorry for the rappers who sing about their family who are ill and things (Kanye broke down on stage last week after he rapped about his mum who has passed away), but my god if every rapper hasn't sung about ill families several times... gah
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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:47 pm

well that's because it's like poetry. how many poets write about love and despair? it's the way they release their emotions, and family is a big thing for kanye and a lot of other rappers. i wish i could have seen his performance, i did see the clip of him breaking down trying to perform hey mama.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:43 am

i like rap. to a certain point where they talk about sex, drugs, and 30" rims. then no. music is music. my favorite rap artist is Atmosphere. i like his songs. they have a meaning to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:43 pm

Rap is good, rap is good... The old stuffs is better, I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Rap Is So Evil   Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:28 pm

tupac, kanye, eminem in that order, are at the top of the game right now, but there are many good rappers.

lupe fiasco, common, others like that. tupac was great, and still is the best, but kanye has closed that gap and is the only one besides em that can be put in the same breath.

problem is, soulja boy and others are fuckin rap up.

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