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PostSubject: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2009 2:54 am

(Taken from The Escapist)

Race in videogames has recently become a touchy subject following the uproar caused by Resident Evil 5's depiction of Africa and its people and when Willie Jefferson, videogame blogger for the Houston Chronicle, wrote a post about racism in games, he re-ignited the discussion with a fresh wave of controversy.

The main point of his article was his dismay at western-themed FPS Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood's use of the Confederate flag, which he regarded as a symbol of hate, but early on in the post, he cited Left4Dead 2 as a game with racist undertones saying: "One of the games that comes to mind is 'Left 4 Dead 2.' Though the game isn't out yet, it's already causing an uproar. Set in New Orleans, players will have to fight their way through hordes of zombies - with several of them who appear to be African-Americans."


Predictably, this view on their game has Valve somewhat mystified and writer Chet Faliszek has spoken about the accusations in an interview with Destructoid.
"Utter insanity," said Faliszek. "There are mixed races of zombies, there are all different races of zombies that you shoot, and since we placed it in New Orleans, that makes it racist? I honestly re-read the paragraph about five times ... but when two of the characters in your game are African-American, it's a weird thing to be accused of. We're like, 'how does this work'? (END :p)

Now, i don't think i'm the only one here who thinks this, but this is the biggest load of bullshit i've ever heard of. Just because you kill black zombies makes L4D2 racist!? I don't understand the idiocy behind this mans writings... Especially since two of your team members are african-american. What do you all think?
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2009 10:51 am

lol! What a laugh!
I can't believe this. I have nothing against blacks either, but WTF!! I totally agree w/ you, man, these ppl are crazy. USA is the MELTING POT, hello!! They're probably gonna shoot white, asian, hispanic, etc. Geez, ppl, it's just a game. Don't freak out over it.
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2009 3:35 pm

I see Left 4 Dead 2 being less racist with black zombies, the first had very pale zombies, that was it, it got tiresome, we need zombies of every ethnicity in Left 4 Dead. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2009 1:17 am

Is the guy who's complaining black? if not, then maybe he should ask some black people if they think the game is racist.


People are over-protective of what content gets put into games.
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2009 7:42 am

Example, they made a rating system. >_>
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeMon Nov 02, 2009 9:24 pm

Well, rating can differ in countries as well.(Mass effect almost got banned here)

Besides if they want racist games there are plenty of others they could waste their time complaining about. Besides, all this is just a game. I mean sure, games do have an impact on people's mindset but heck, can these people get any bigger of a joke? I don't see the racism in it honestly
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeMon Nov 02, 2009 10:36 pm

Australia gets no L4D2 Sad

Both the explicit and censored versions got banned, which I don't see the reason why. They let MadWorld through and Borderlands, both with equal amounts of violence/gore. If those 2 games just had a little more realistic colour, they would've been banned as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeThu Nov 05, 2009 10:37 am

I think Valve are going to appeal against it again. It takes the piss really, the fact that they won't let it through. Isn't it something like that there's only one governer that opposes there being an 18+ rating out of all teh governers in Australia? I think it's something like that anyway. They let violent movies like Hostel through, so why not games? They're nowhere near as bad. Films show rape scenes, yet games would get banned instantly if there was anything like that. The mind boggles...
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeThu Nov 05, 2009 10:46 pm

Michael Atkinson, probably in the top 5 of the most hated in Australia.
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PostSubject: Re: Valve accused of being racist.   Valve accused of being racist. Icon_minitimeThu May 13, 2010 9:51 pm

Calling those games racist is just stupid i mean Resident evil 5 was set in africa which would of course means black some white and some other race zombies no problem with that all races are involved but look at all the other games of the series all it dealed with was shooting mostly all white zombies. Left 4 dead 2 was just the most ridiculous thing to complain about. A zombie game is only good when its realistic and making it only white zombies cause people think its racist to have even one black zombie makes the game horrible and also the game has 2 black survivors and italian looking dude and the only truly white dude is a freaking red neck(although eliss is funny and a really good character)isn't that racist but you don't see the white people complaining. I myself have dreams of becoming a game designer and get steamed when people get mad at a game for reasons such as it being racist. To make a game and make it good now a days you have to make it realistic in some cases which means making enemies and such all races and if a game having one African American person as an enemy and a million African Americans as the kick butt good guys is still racist against the African Americans then games can never be fair for anyone. I am not racist against any race just to let you know. it just gets me steamed when a very good game is called racist when its the most non racist thing in man kind. people don't buy a game or make a game just to beat up a white black or any other race person people make and buy games to enjoy. RACE IS NOT INVOLVED
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